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Why Phantom Is Launching Perps + Why Bit Digital Ditched BTC for ETH - Ep. 866

Category: Business
Duration: 01:13:33
Publish Date: 2025-07-11 13:00:00
Description:

In the first half of this dual episode, Phantom co-founder Brandon Millman joins Unchained to break down why his Solana-first wallet is launching perpetual swaps, and why it chose to integrate with Hyperliquid over any Solana-native option.

Then, Bit Digital’s Sam Tabar explains why the public company ditched its profitable Bitcoin mining business, went all-in on ETH, and what happened when he told Michael Saylor.

Phantom

Unchained: Phantom Wallet Launches Direct Perpetual Trading With Hyperliquid

Phantom blog post: Introducing Phantom Perps

Dragonfly’s Austin Marrazza tweet

Bit Digital

The Block: Bit Digital swaps entire treasury into Ethereum, says it's now a top public ETH holder after a $173 million splurge

Treasury companies


Timestamps: Phantom

  • 0:00 Intro

  • 1:36 Why Phantom is launching perps—and why now was the moment to do it

  • 6:08 How they landed on 40x leverage

  • 7:48 How Phantom plans to make money from its new trading product

  • 8:50 Why U.S. users are left out (for now)

  • 10:36 Why Hyperliquid won out over Solana-native DEXes

  • ️ 12:55 Whether wallets and dapps are headed for a showdown

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