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	Podcast:		The SaaS Revolution Show
	Episode:		Vibe code vs no-code: Softr’s vision for the future of app building
	Category:		Business
	Duration:		00:12:26
	Publish Date:		2025-10-23 00:00:00
	Description:		This episode was recorded live at SaaStock Europe 2025. Alex Theuma sits down with Mariam Hakobyan, CEO and Co-founder of Softr, to explore the evolution of app building in the AI era. Mariam explains why Softr is focusing on AI-powered no-code and why the companies that focus on solving real, hard problems will define the next generation of SaaS. Alex and Mariam discuss how Softr’s journey to over 1 million non-technical builders, the debate around vibe-coded apps, how AI is transforming no-code, and what it really takes to build a product that lasts. - The difference between vibe code and no-code platforms - How AI and no-code together are changing how teams build software - Softr’s organic growth story: 1M builders, zero sales team - Why solving fundamental problems still wins - The hardest challenge for SaaS founders today: distribution Guest links: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariamhakobyan/ Website - https://www.softr.io/ Check out the other ways SaaStock is helping SaaS founders move their business forward:
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