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	Podcast:		The New Stack Makers
	Episode:		Cloud Foundry’s Executive Director On What Empathy Teaches
	Category:		Technology
	Duration:		00:28:05
	Publish Date:		2018-11-01 12:24:11
	Description:		Whether everyone should learn to code or not is a subject of debate despite the hype — but those who wear the project management hat when offering software solutions to customers stand to gain valuable career lessons. During a podcast Alex Williams, founder and editor-in-chief of The New Stack, hosted during Cloud Foundry Summit Europe 2018 in Basel, Switzerland; Abby Kearns, executive director of the Cloud Foundry Foundation, discussed the major influence this role has had on her career. Indeed, Kearns’ first job as a project manager set the course for her career after earning a computer science degree 20 years ago from Chapman University. “I went straight from graduating college into project management — to be quite honest, I think anyone that starts their career in tech should have to start with that job,” Kearns said. “It teaches you and gives you a broad understanding of a lot of the different pieces that go into making something happen.” Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmlrEkbrtv0
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