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#608 – Vapor Phase with Saber Kaygusez
Category: Science & Medicine
Duration: 01:07:55
Publish Date: 2022-11-08 01:32:56
Description:

Welcome Saber Kaygusez of PCB Arts!

  • PCB Arts has been developing the EdgeKit, a modular platform for AI and vision applications baesd on the nVidia Jetson
  • Saber and team were building robots previously, up through 2017
  • After they encountered software people not understanding hardware, they decided to focus on nvidia jetson
  • They focus mostly on smaller companies
  • Example application is an inspection tunnel in auto manufacturing
  • Use nVidia resources to rebuild camera modules in the kernel
  • They have 6 people on the team and do consulting services in additoin to the products they build
  • 3 month timelines for projects
  • They have been focusing on reinvesting in the business and investing in product development
  • Buying parts 1.5 years ago
  • Complexity of the product determines the percentage of the overall process the design piece is (vs manufacturing / certs / sales)
  • The Vapor Phase One is a prosumer level Vapor Phase reflow machine
  • Chris first encountered Vapor Phase when Jonathan Hirschman of PCB:ng was on the show.
  • Compared to infrared ovens, Vapor Phase doesn’t have to worry about scorching or shading components.
  • Normally they are 10K+ euros for oven
  • Safety wise, it’s safe as long as the liquid is heated precisely
  • The Vapor Phase One is available in their web store
  • Also available on Mouser for US people (as are most Crowd Supply campaign products). There are 4 distributors in Europe.
  • It was a hassle to get the product certified in the US
  • They targeted a $1500 price, ended up at $5k (still half of most Vapor Phase)
  • The liquid inside the machine is called Galden, which stays at a stable vapor temperature when heated.
  • 1kg lasts 1 year or more.
  • After a bit of time, you need to clean the flux out of the Galden resevoir.
  • There is a post cleaning process based on water cooling built in the system. At 120C, the PCB will come out “dry”.
  • PCB Arts has posted on Twitter/their blog about visualizing boards in Blender.
  • They are focused on software improvements for the Vapor Phase machine.
  • Since PCB Arts is based in Nuremberg, they will again be at Embedded World
  • Follow the company and Saber at PCB Arts on their site.
  • Follow Saber on LinkedIn

Note: Chris lost his voice at Hackaday Supercon, that’s why we had a computer intro!
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