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	Podcast:		The Amp Hour Electronics Podcast
	Episode:		#420 – An Interview with Joe Long
	Category:		Science & Medicine
	Duration:		01:35:23
	Publish Date:		2018-12-16 22:27:21
	Description:		Welcome Joe Long of Hackerboxes! Chris and Joe met (in person) at the vendor area of DEF CON 26 0h 0m 26s Hackerboxes is a subscription service for people who want to build electronics! 0h 1m 15s It’s not solely security focused, but often has elements of security. 0h 3m 3s It’s also not just getting started folks 0h 4m 7s Used to teach engineering 0h 6m 9s Joe started as an engineer, going to school at CalTech 0h 7m 3s AppleII on BBS 0h 7m 9s Eventually Joe got into IP law 0h 7m 34s He wanted to build a service the helped Build up the lab 0h 8m 49s Model car kit vs Lego kit 0h 10m 42s Most suggestions come from users 0h 15m 41s Sourcing 0h 17m 25s Theme sometimes come after the fact 0h 17m 47s Constraints Under a pound Fit in the box shape (10 inches) Cost constraint Educational Coolness 0h 18m 42s Yagi antenna in HB0023 Don’t ship power supplies/ batteries 0h 22m 9s FAQ 0h 25m 50s Wielding electricity 0h 30m 41s Hackerboxes team 0h 32m 39s They employ someone in Shenzhen to help with sourcing from China 0h 35m 31s IP attorney 0h 41m 0s Do you really want a patent? 0h 44m 22s patents are sometying you use to protect and asset to sell it 0h 44m 58s chattel 0h 45m 35s copyright is a simple form of IP 0h 45m 58s useful, non obvious 0h 47m 58s Patent troll 0h 48m 50s Using a patent as a hammer 0h 50m 8s just to get started, 6 figures 0h 50m 48s Silicon Valley episode about the Patent Troll 0h 51m 53s Will try to talk them out of it 0h 54m 8s Disclosure meeting 0h 54m 46s 6 wheels instead of 4 0h 55m 8s “Need in the art” 0h 55m 15s “Unexpected result” 0h 55m 33s Novel is “necessary but not sufficien” 0h 55m 51s Utility patent – useful, novel and non obvious 0h 57m 1s Limited monopoly 0h 59m 35s patent office is giving a “reason for allowance” 0h 59m 43s Joe writes claims that capture the engineering terms 1h 3m 27s Don’t want to allow people to “design around” 1h 4m 6s Patent attorneys see new products every 4 – 6 days 1h 6m 20s Software patents 1h 9m 5s Patents for Google Wallet and Bing Maps 1h 9m 34s Design vs Utility patent 1h 10m 53s Data analytics example 1h 13m 15s Machine or transformation test 1h 17m 1s international patent harmonization 1h 17m 17s Abstract concepts are never patentable 1h 19m 37s It’s tricky to read patents 1h 21m 21s If there’s an area of technology you like, you might want to read the patent 1h 23m 17s Pro se patents 1h 23m 53s Patently obvious 1h 24m 27s The funnel 1h 26m 5s $20K for patenting process 1h 26m 17s 70% get issued of that 1% who get through 1h 26m 27s Patent granted (probably to a big company) 1h 26m 44s longtechlaw.com 1h 33m 55s USPTO 1h 34m 10s Hackerboxes.com 1h 34m 36s @hackerboxes 1h 35m 41s
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