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Joanna Kavenna: How To Play A Game Without Rules
Category: Arts
Duration: 00:35:51
Publish Date: 2026-01-14 17:30:00
Description:

My guest in this week’s Book Club is Joanna Kavenna, who talks about her witty, philosophically riddling new novel Seven: Or, How To Play A Game Without Rules. She tells me about taking her bearings from Italo Calvino, making up a board game and then being the world’s worst player at it, how AI challenges our sense of ourselves – and how Morten Harket found his way into her fiction.

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