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Special guest Sheryl Cababa. She’s the Vice President of Strategy for Seattle-based agency Substantial, and we’re going to talk about how a systems-thinking approach focused on outcomes can benefit the work designers do, and the influence they have.
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Guest Starring: Sheryl Cababa
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