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	Podcast:		POLITICO's Off Message
	Episode:		Kirsten Gillibrand: Trump is pushing the ‘devil’s schemes’
	Category:		News & Politics
	Duration:		00:52:43
	Publish Date:		2018-06-19 04:00:00
	Description:		The New York senator has a different word for the family separation policy which the attorney general and White House press secretary call “Biblical.” Her word is “evil.” In the Biblical sense. Referencing the “devil’s schemes” from the Book of Ephesians, the New York senator said President Donald Trump’s administration qualifies for that label “if you were talking in Christian language.” “To me? Yes, these are all things that come from the darkness that are ripping children from their mothers’ arms. That’s outrageous. I mean, that is not a positive, good thing. It is an evil, dark thing,” she says in an interview for the latest episode of POLITICO’s Off Message podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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