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Most people believe insight alone creates transformation. But insight without daily practice fades—and self-sabotage takes over.
In this episode of The Mark Divine Show, Mark sits down with Shirzad Chamine, New York Times bestselling author of Positive Intelligence and one of the world’s leading experts on mental fitness, leadership performance, and mindset mastery.
Shirzad shares his journey from a traumatic childhood marked by generational rage and depression to building a globally recognized framework used by Fortune 100 companies, Stanford faculty, and over two million leaders worldwide.
Together, they unpack: - Why high performers sabotage themselves under pressure -The 10 mental “Saboteurs” that destroy wellbeing, performance, and relationships - Why workshops and motivation don’t create lasting change - How to rewire the brain through short, daily mental fitness practices - The difference between insight and transformation - How to shift from fear-based reactions to calm, focused, purposeful action
This conversation bridges neuroscience, leadership, spirituality, and practical tools you can use in the middle of real life, not just in meditation or reflection.
If you want more clarity, resilience, and control over how you show up under stress—this episode gives you a repeatable system to build it.
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