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	Podcast:		Code Switch
	Episode:		Jelani Cobb talks democracy, Trumpism, and the future of journalism
	Category:		News & Politics
	Duration:		00:18:11
	Publish Date:		2026-01-10 08:00:01
	Description:		2026 is off to an intense start, but many of the events we're seeing play out today come out of dynamics that have been building for years. Jelani Cobb, a journalist, historian, and the Dean of Columbia's journalism school, talks to us about his new book, Three of More is a Riot (Notes on How We Got Here: 2012-2025), which analyzes some of the major events of the United States' past decade and a half, and how they've set the groundwork for much of what's happening now. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
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