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487: Further Tales of Chocolate Pears
Category: Arts
Duration: 01:04:00
Publish Date: 2026-01-21 05:00:00
Description: In This Episode, We Cover
  • Why Sorbus domestica is often nicknamed "the chocolate pear" (and why that name actually helps people get it)
  • What bletting means, and why sorbs can be delicious before they turn fully brown (depending on the fruit)
  • The "custard stage" vs. fully bletted "medlar-like" stage (and how this relates to cider pressing windows)
  • Ben's sorb travel finds across:
    • Croatia (including fruit for sale at the market + trees growing in yards)
    • Moravia (Czech Republic) — including the Sorbus museum and harvest festival
    • France (sorb hunting with Arnold and tasting cormé/cormé-style ferments)
    • Somerset, UK (a surprise roadside discovery!)
  • Growth habits that can make Sorbus domestica look like an oak
  • Why sorbs may matter in a changing climate:
    • deep root systems
    • drought resistance
    • long lifespan
    • later bloom time (less frost risk)
  • Seed-grown vs grafted sorbs — and why Ben prefers genetic diversity (for now)
  • The surprising reality: sorbs have already been distributed widely in the U.S. through seedlings
  • What's being made with sorbs in Europe:
    • brandy
    • co-ferments with grapes
    • wine experiments

Time Stamps

00:00 Introduction to Sorbus Domestica

00:18 Meet the Podcast Host: Ria Windcaller

00:52 Exploring Sorbus Domestica: History and Uses

01:25 Cider Chat Episodes Featuring Sorbus Domestica

02:39 Sorbus Domestica in France and the US

04:05 Cider News and Upcoming Events

07:53 Interview with Ben Kunesh: Chocolate Pears

08:33 The Unique Characteristics of Sorbus Domestica

17:25 Sorbus Domestica Around the World

21:03 The Versatility and Adaptability of Sorbus Domestica

24:20 The Future of Sorbus Domestica in Orchards

25:49 Sorbus Domestica: A Historical Perspective

27:34 Ben's Travels and Discoveries

34:25 Exploring Sorbus Domestica Variations

35:30 Propagation Techniques and Genetic Diversity

37:29 Historical Context and Distribution

39:50 Nursery and Distribution Efforts

41:09 European Adventures and Discoveries

45:30 Tasting Sorbus Domestica Products

54:23 Future Prospects and Cultivation Tips

01:00:58 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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