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	Podcast:		Around the Horn
	Episode:		How to Make and Sustain Changes
	Category:		Sports & Recreation
	Duration:		01:26:23
	Publish Date:		2022-01-18 21:14:00
	Description:		It's an action packed episode of That's What She Said. Sarah talks to Herminia Ibarra, an organizational behavior professor, about the three phases of making a major life change. Then she chats with Dr. Katy Milkman, an economist, about the importance of committing to the small steps and having a plan to tackle a big life goal. And finally Sarah talks to three of her friends who made or are in the process of making big career leaps.
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