Joanna Schlip and Lisa Watts – Cultivating a Celebrity Client Base

Want to know how to maintain and even recreate a career in the beauty business that lasts a lifetime? Then do not miss this RadioAMB interview where guest host Aliesh Pierce interviews two skincare heavy hitters in the biz: Celebrity Makeup Artist Joanna Schlip and Celebrity Skin Care Specialist Lisa Watts.
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my name is Elise Pierce and I’m sitting
in for Patti Schmucker my friend my
mentor and my boss I’m also a published
textbook author a licensed aesthetician
and a veteran celebrity makeup artist
and I have been in the business in one
capacity or another for almost 40 years
that means I started working in as a
theatrical makeup artist at the age of
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of the reasons I’m able to continually
recreate my career is because I have
friends in my life who served as amazing
examples of what it means to continually
grow
I’m surrounded by resilient women who
just refused to settle that’s why I’m
excited about taping this show today
about creating an ever-evolving career
in the beauty industry because I have
personally witnessed the evolution of my
guests my guest today our celebrity
makeup artist Joanna schlip along with
celebrity skincare specialist Lisa Watts
these two have been a part of my tribe
for a long time Angela and I go way back
almost three decades
Joanna schlip started as a makeup artist
and has evolved to become a global
artist and brand spokesperson she has
been contracted as a trend consultant
and is also the founder and create a
creator of our seek a red carpet color
rck which was she founded in a seven and
just sold last year my next guest
Lisa Watts turned her love for science
and skin into a successful career in
esthetics using that as a launch pad she
has held contracts as a product
development consultant and has become an
internationally recognized cosmetic
trainer welcome ladies
hey thank you for having us I’m glad
you’re able to come in today you know an
artist ability to grow beyond the chair
or the treatment room really has to do
with more than just having a desire they
must have a tenacious spirit and yet be
humble enough to always put the client
first during our first interview we’ll
talk to Joanna and Lisa about how they
started in the salon and the spa and
then branched out to share their
expertise with cosmetics brands in need
of their support and in our second
segment which we call beauty that soul
deep we’ll talk about those issues our
guests see as complications in the
beauty industry and what trends might
develop because of them in our final
segment we will talk to them about what
their plans are for 2018 and any
predictions they might have for the
beauty industry going forward
now I want to just get your backstory
what tell me a little bit about your
education and how you kind of evolved
into this this field let’s start with
you Joanna
okay so um I guess that age 9 I didn’t I
knew I wanted to be makeup artist but I
didn’t really know what that was
so I just started painting faces and by
the time I was 18 I bought a one-way
ticket to Paris I lied to my parents I
said I had a job and I didn’t I had
enough money to last me a week and I
toured the mast-head out of French Vogue
and I literally flew one way and I
walked in and I said I want to work for
you and they were like whoa you can’t
just do that jab an agent you have it
portfolio did it I had none of that and
didn’t know I needed that so cut to UM
four years later I know and it was a lot
I mean I assisted you know for four
years not getting paid just a you know
if they do apprenticeships over there
and I had done cosmetology school in
America that I didn’t know you didn’t
need a license to actually do makeup on
you know models so but I had in my
pocket
so after that I started sitting
everybody and then you know I started
working on my own and then within you
know four years I was on the grind and
starting to work and supporting myself
doing what I loved and then we just you
know started moving into where the
markets were hot as you remember we met
in Milan and when like dolce gabbana was
hot Milan was the space and then when
you know Alexander McQueen came out then
London was the place to be so I kind of
did that fashion circuit so almost 15
years
after the formal training it really was
about that life experience to get you on
set and in front of the real decision
makers Wow it was a lesson on what not
to do and what to do and it changed
everything and I I’m so grateful that I
did the European experience because it
really altered what my vision of beauty
was it formed actually one of my vision
and beauty
and how I rely on people like Lisa
because you know the skin is everything
for us it’s our canvas and without
incredible people like her we you know
then is that’s perfect segue I met Lisa
as we were in the process of rebranding
so you tell me about your experience in
how you evolved into this beautiful
esthetician again exactly goddess um my
dry four skin started at the age of God
didn’t even know when I was a kid I just
love pimples everyone does all females
we all do
we know it but I do have a love for
science and biology and cellular biology
and ilish knows the crazy cellular
biologist that I have become over the
past I just like to sit at your feet and
soak it all up
um and so I actually started my school
my career to become a doctor to be would
come a dermatologist because I always
had this thing for skin and as I was
finishing up my degree in in chemistry I
realized that dermatologists deal with
disease and I didn’t want to deal with
disease it’s disgusting you know
psoriasis and no thank you
but I wanted to do deal with skin and
back then and I don’t wanna date myself
but dermatologists were doctors are not
these beauty but you know people as they
are today yes for community Accords now
and that’s only the past 15 years it
actually the plastic surgeons were
really the beauty experts back in the
day and so I decided to become an
aesthetician and after us college
because because working with
biochemistry wasn’t a good idea for me
either because I’m very a lot of
personality and in a lab is not good so
I started doing aesthetics and back in
the day when I when we started Alicia
and I actually started there wasn’t a
lot there was a lot of skincare than
there is now
and so I wanted to develop skincare and
develop vitamins
I understood cellular biology very well
and I knew that nutrition is 90% of the
way and then the rest of it is how
you’re taking care of your skin on the
outside environment and so
I became an expert accidentally with
destiny arrived for knowledge and
teaching knowledge that leads me to my
next question here I think I see that
similar thread that there was a face of
formal education but then you take that
and run with it so I know that in the
branding process none of us are planning
our lives you know thinking okay I’m
going to strategize to become a beauty
expert right exactly
and which and that title we’ll talk
about what that means in reality
nowadays but we’ll do that later I
really would like to it with hindsight
looking back what can you say your path
was towards becoming in a branded expert
I can definitely say you know having the
support of an agent and a team that
really believes in you and wants to make
their Commission on you helps to push
that forward because you know as
creatives we don’t often tell our own
story but you know looking back if you
can just shed some light on the whole
process well for me and becoming a skin
you know being an expert to say I don’t
really like that word expert cuz
nobody’s really an expert at it because
we’re just learning as we go is so much
to me but in spite of practice is
repressed I really enjoy education and I
can take the most complicated scientific
knowledge of this cells and how products
work and how the skin reacts and why
inflammation this or this and that and
dumb it down no pun intended but kind of
simplify it so everyone understood so
when I learned something I ran when I
worked for the different spas of its
Carlton’s and the different thing that
would run in and tell everybody about it
and and I was really good at skincare
and I just loved those training sessions
and I just wonderful mentor from Germany
who just put me under her wing and the
least knows her very well she’s an older
woman looked amazing just everything was
positive about her and she forced me to
learn the science behind it and why so
people started to trust me clients and
patients really trust me doctors even
dermatologists trust me in my decisions
they’ll say something I’m like no I
think we should do this and
really good diet dermatology well let’s
try these this way yeah but it’s all
about knowledge and and it evolved and I
and I spread the knowledge constantly
and that’s really what my favorite thing
is is I got to know what I know
everybody’s going to know and I think
that is that’s the mark of a true expert
that you’re not interested in just
holding on and hoarding the information
you really are there to share it you
know and and in sharing it you gain the
confidence and get placed with
high-profile celebrities who have you on
Access Hollywood access oh yeah yeah on
a lot of different shows but yeah I know
on their speed dial right agencies are
in character nine one one time on one
facials love that and but Joanna has the
same problem right yes well it’s a good
problem to have skin expert problems I
just wanted Joanna let’s pass the same
question on to you looking back how do
you think you what was your career path
um I would have to say I mean what drove
my career path was um artistic risk I
think that um I wasn’t an invested on
how everybody else saw my work or saw me
for example um and I think it was I felt
natural and safe even opponent he spent
before social media we were able to do
that artistic offering without being you
know kind of you out loud to make
mistakes right under under that
microscope of social media you have to
just experiment exactly you have to have
a thousand likes in order to be
successful 100% so I mean it drove me
like I never thought I’d be on TV and I
did over three I’ve done over 300
television appearances but if you told
me I was a behind-the-scenes girl I had
no one so I have a question than a
little veer off the topic how did it
feel being selected to be the on-camera
judge for face off for blush for blush
sorry for blush it was interesting it
was just I went in and it was within the
mall and I went in and they said it’s
you and I said what’s me and they said
you’re in it you’re going to be the
judge on the show
and hal rubenstein from InStyle yes
reticle and then we have another
rotating celebrity judge so it was fun
it was it was really interesting to see
how I roadie since I’ve been on Oprah so
many times I and in the control room I
knew how I started to learn how
television works yeah you already
comfortable yeah but this was an ongoing
yes this was an ongoing position so as
though is the Oprah thing I mean it was
part of that that team that she selected
but it was you know I gotta say it was
quite an interesting you know education
but it always came back to in my eyes
that results matter so along with that
was noise to me and at the end of the
day if the work wasn’t there it wasn’t
in my pocket the artist part of makeup
artist isn’t there that yes so yeah even
have written a book and you know I did
you know and it wasn’t one as one that
was like you staple together your house
and it was published by Random House was
a big deal
yeah and everything that so far that
I’ve been so you know humbled and you
know grateful to have been accomplished
I also grind you know there is also an
incredible work ethic yes one thing that
I have admired and I have to say you
know and even when I own my own company
as well and I was talking to a leash
about this couple weekends ago you know
the when you are the CEO and the CMO
order of your own brand for example he
doesn’t stop and so when you are so sole
proprietor and you’re working as a you
know contracted makeup artists out with
an agent for example or I’ve been on
your own you know it doesn’t stop when
your brushes are set down that’s
actually that’s a vacation for me is to
paint a face it’s the other 20 you know
two hours in the day what what are you
doing with those hours that is going to
propel you to the next that is yes that
is the truth and that actually my next
question is about becoming a brand
ambassador or consultant and that really
is the the key that you’re constantly on
yeah there is so much innovation and the
business is driven by new right I mean
in skincare we see that even more than
and make I think the makeup industry is
now borrowing some of those ingredients
and techniques but that that skincare
and innovation is key it changes by the
day yeah it’s hard to keep up with some
of the estheticians and skincare people
who are in the industry it’s hard to
keep up with it yeah and I was going to
say I think that it lends itself again
to your expertise as as a skin care
expert because you actually have that
arsenal of information those tools that
you can go out and share with other
estheticians you know estheticians I
kind of just and I helped develop brands
just from the different trending
elements and ingredients that are coming
out and if new things every day and
there and science is just getting out of
control not really out of control which
is so in-depth in the computers and how
things are aniline everyone’s googling
and they love and I know my love have
got the consumers knowledge yeah and so
that requires our industry to really
step up their their game as well as a
R&D; consultant helping to develop brands
what exactly is your role what’s that
process look like for you well the
process for me in that role is to
especially whistle talk about doctors
like dermatologists and I’ve worked with
and they have philosophies and ideas and
and it’s up to me to prove that their
idea is working and it will work and
then they can stand behind it and then
the ingredients and I always try to make
things as natural as possible but you
can’t take a lot of really scientific
peptides and all that and then put it in
a natural product it’s not going to
happen but you know does it work will it
work and there’s so many people
piggyback on top of other things so I
need to constantly keep growing these
doctors to be noon innovative and and
that’s my job is to basically do the
research research research and I’m
dealing with companies on you know
different scientific company different
science companies that deal with new
innovative right the raw material Myatt
area formulas and everybody my favorite
in this industry when I first started
that this skin cares the greatest in the
world and that skin care the greatest in
the world
I couldn’t understand why we have 10 in
front of me they’re all the greatest in
the world which one is the greatest in
the world
and none of them are right that happened
more than not yeah and so now we’re
inundated I we just went to a spa show
and I just like you’re kidding
and you can’t even change the package
you just changed the label right exactly
like rebranding tried that party I did
you know that’s what I think as all of
us can agree to that as brand
spokesperson or consultants it’s our job
to make sure the marketing is true to
the propaganda in the jar yeah but I
call it propaganda right so much
propaganda were inundated with
propaganda 95% of the day well that’s
what sells but that propaganda should be
truthful truthful yeah well but yeah
because there’s truth um you know our
FDA or Food and Drug Administration
tries to do the best they can but
there’s so many out there that they
don’t they have one person for every
10,000 skincare line that’s out there
and they don’t they can today not on
their radar until there’s a problem
until there’s a thank you there’s a
problem and that’s the most common way
when products are found out and the
truth be told is when it comes out is
when it actually hurts somebody how do
you Johanna handle that marketing
question when you’re hired to be an
expert or consultant and and they’re the
brand already has some direction they
want to go and how do you add some
wisdom and clarity on you know what you
know your end user to be okay well this
is where I’m so grateful to be a veteran
in the beauty industry and to have the
chops and years of experience that I
have because results matter they matter
and women are educated today and if you
couldn’t if they make claims then they
and they sell it you know on those
claims and it doesn’t you know provide
those results and they’re not going to
sell but my favorite is like works on
every skin tone and then it usually
falls apart unless it’s transparent it
usually falls apart yeah I’ve never
bought that so just really quickly one
quick lesson along the way give me a few
seconds of you know if you can share
along this path of becoming an expert
Lisa what what is your your greatest
lesson my greatest lesson is being
truthful and really standing behind
testing brands and knowing the science
behind it and and really being able to
talk to it don’t just sell something
because you have it in your back bar or
have it in your arsenal just really be
honest to it and your ethical yeah
that’s a good word and a lot of clients
will come back and that’s how you build
your build your own career reputation
your reputation is that you’re being
honest and I won’t allow people to use
things mm-hmm as when I take things away
all the time all the time what about you
how do you what did you would you say is
your greatest lesson Joanna I think um
getting your basics down and keeping it
like simple and I keep going back to
results matter because at the end of the
day if you if you can’t shine on the day
that you are meant to shine whether it
be the Oscars or whether it be someone’s
wedding it doesn’t really mean either or
even or owning a product you know
everything at the end of the day if I
put my name on it I want it to be you
know I hold myself to a standard of
excellence and honesty as well right and
I think we’ll revisit that when we talk
a little later so we’re going to take a
break now and when we come back we’ll
discuss both the ups and the downside
sides of some of the trends that Joanna
and Lisa are seeing in skin and makeup
today you’re listening to radio a and B
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and in this segment I want to look at
some of the beauty trends Joanna and
Lisa are seeing out there today I’d like
to just ask you Joanna what are some of
the complications that you’re seeing in
the beauty industry what more
specifically what are some trends that
you’re seeing that the end user
typically women are using doing now that
could cause some complications in the
future um well I’m definitely seeing um
cosmetic products that are you know 3 +
1 4 + 1 5 + 1 and they’re trying to pack
in all of their skincare into their and
their sunscreen under this into that X&Y;
their anti-aging and all but they want
it to be in a sheer BB cream you know
what I mean so I think that they’re
assuming that you know a product can
only do so much specially a cosmetic
product as opposed to maybe a medically
based product if you know if even but
and I think that when they see something
that says you know I was got vitamin C
if they don’t know how much admin C it
has energy use yeah exactly and I keep
going back to you know like the SPF if
that’s it because that’s such a huge one
that people want to skip that step and I
get it they don’t want a lot of you know
different things on their skin but truth
be told you know with someone like pizza
or just you know clients and my clients
in general celebrities or whatever women
that you know when you take great care
of your skin you’re going to find that
you know it the less cosmetic part that
you’re that you’re going to need but the
true but everybody wants cosmetics I
mean it’s a fun and it’s a way it’s an
expression and it’s beautiful and I mean
color and it’s social media has made it
such a huge
a huge trend right now massive but yeah
I really believe that there that what I
see is that they’re trying to put so
many different ingredients into a
product that the consumer wants and it
may not necessarily be to the extent you
know or function as the extent as a
professional product of that nature
would be so yeah I agree I that’s one of
the things that I’m seeing in some of
the brands that they should remain
nameless that I’m experimenting with
they’re so full of stem cells and
polypeptides and that they’re actually
causing some in some cases some
reactions because it’s just too active –
too much pixie dust in one place so Lisa
what about you what are you seeing as
some of the complications in the beauty
industry some of the trends over the
past five years is inflammation a lot of
women look amazing because they have
inflammation and they throw makeup on
top of it because they are wrinkle free
but inflammation just speeds up the
aging process as we know by some of the
celebrities that 72 is 50 or 45 now
having that skin take care of you at the
age of 52 is really important so I do
have a lot of clients that are over 70
and they do look very young and that’s
because they’ve been with me for 20
years and we’d take care of their skin
and we don’t cause any inflammation and
and we’re always building and loving it
and nurturing it I’m always really big
about antioxidants not ripping it down
and the trend over the past 10 years is
more glycolic more cell silic more this
more that burn it down dermabrasion
you know severe severe peels that make
you just flake off and you look like a
mess for a couple of weeks and it makes
your skin susceptible I got a whole
course on just what does those types of
peels do to the skin and speeds up the
aging process and I you know if you take
me at my age which I’m not going to
disclose and put me next to a woman
who’s been doing this a long time I look
like I’m 30 and she looks like she’s 60
and that’s all you look great and reason
why you look great as the inflammation
so I’m always big about that protecting
the skin protecting and nursing it
matched to imaging Karen yeah and I do
tell clients that you know you did this
over the past 30 years I mean you got to
give me some time to bring you back
in skincare my personal mantra when it
comes to inflammation in peels is that
wonderful miraculous glycolic molecule
that is so tiny that you know people are
using it over-the-counter because it’s
buffered or going getting professional
peels and not realizing that it’s
actually so small that it’s penetrating
and did a Danish getting deep and and
the dermal damage is really what’s
important to me in it looks great but
you got to take the what how long is it
gonna look great yeah think about it
when you get these peels or get that
laser treatment how long do you look
great
most the time you look great for 90 days
because you’re still inflamed you still
have inflammation where you look great
and then you start to decline and then
you run back and you do it again okay so
with that in mind both of you let’s
discuss this since this is an ongoing
issue overuse of products going to
aggressively with chemical peels and
resurfacing and lasers and lasers and I
know you do a whole show just some ways
movie could be totally skin deep out oh
but given that this overuse of product
and causing too much inflammation is is
really ongoing and it’s a trend it’s
here to stay social media is advertising
chemical peel is one of the highest
marked researched hashtags on Instagram
so yes it is it is a trend you know as
seen by some of the marketing that’s
going on so with that with that
understanding five years from now when
the damage starts to show two years from
now what do you see as some of the
resolutions that are going to have to
come up what’s the greatest area of
opportunity for those marketers and
other manufacturers in the industry to
create something to offset those those
results those effects well we’re seeing
it now is pigmentation and the different
types of natural products that can help
with pigmentation without causing
inflammation without Hydra Queen a lot
of without hydroquinone and we’re the
only country in the world that uses
hydroquinone everywhere else it’s it’s
actually illegal
it’s a carcinogen and it’s not permitted
even to you can’t even walk into the
into a lot of cultures with it but
there’s a lot of natural products that
do help a pigmentation but we’re seeing
now and a lot of skincare companies are
rushing to address it and cover-ups the
cover-up
yeah I’ve just recently I’m a little
late but started to fall in love with
cover FX brand and I see that having a
real role because there is so much
damage as those instant peels you set
them out a little sunscreen lunchtime
peel send them out in you know 100
degree weather
alright sun shining and do that for
maybe even if it’s seasonal but you’re
doing that for several years you’re
going to need to turn to a professional
who can help you cover up then well the
thing is even dermatologists don’t
understand that the clients are going
home and one set peeling stops they’re
sitting at their son’s soccer game
outside that’s right and and they don’t
understand even the doctors don’t know
if they do understand because I
constantly talk about it is that the
damage at this being caused by this sun
exposure after peels or lasers is so
great I any patient who knows me well I
will talk them out of lasers and peels
especially if you know you have a car
show I have one person who has a car
show that she goes to I’m like no you
cannot have this done she wants it done
she ends up going to another doctor to
have it done now she’s coming back
because she has a lot of problems and so
that’s very common and I’m sure that
Joanna’s see in that when you’re doing
makeup well you do you deal with a
client base that has access to the best
of the best and all of that and they’re
educated by people like Lisa and have
you to you know do their I always say
translate that beauty for the camera so
there you’re probably not seeing as much
damage as someone in the treatment room
would because they’re they’ve already
corrected that when they come to you or
they’re trying to correct it when they
come to you mmm or they’re calling me
because it hasn’t been corrected in
their panic
the Oscars are or the Grammys whatever
and there’s a lot of attention red
carpet so what I find is that you know
it is it you know granted they you know
usually they’re beautiful women yeah and
you know I usually more Geordi have
great skin but there are issues and I
definitely would think that you know I
always think that pigmentation is
probably the largest that I’m seeing so
both of you agree then that going
forward manufacturers and I think they
are they think they already see this
this trend they have the foresight
I think they created the trend given
what they want and oh now give them what
they want now that is a little know
themselves out well that’s good that’s a
great place to take a break we’re going
to take another break here and when we
return we’ll talk about how Lisa and
Joanna’s stay motivated when they’re
working in this constantly morphing
industry stay with us
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Alicia Pearce in this segment I want to
explore how Lisa and Joanna keep going
you know what is your personal mission
statement and I’m going to just
interject mine here just because I love
it oh I really I’m here to help people
create their own unique definition of
beauty I was on a flight with my client
india.arie we’re going to Japan and she
asked me what is your purpose and I
didn’t know what you know what’s your
mission statement I didn’t have one and
I took that week to just look at what
the similarities what what is it that I
attract easily and effortlessly what are
those similarities those themes that
keep coming up in my career and I
realized I always get the new artist the
new model the woman getting ready for
her wedding somebody who is just new to
beauty and so I realized my job is to
help them relate to their beauty in a
different way you know to help them
create their own unique definition of
beauty so Joanna you’ve been in this as
long as I have Lisa at you too
so I know that there’s got to be
something at your core that keeps you
going some credo that keeps you you know
ever-evolving and you know rebranding
yourself actually um I don’t really I
take myself out of it actually um and I
think that my my perspective on it is
that
I think that you know I want every woman
to feel beautiful because I know how
important it is on their psyche and
Beauty means many things you know I’ve
worked on some work with women who are
actually you know can be one of the most
other people inside so beauty from
within out radiates but I think that
that’s for me is the most important that
you know when you sit down and find
woman and they’re vulnerable and they
you know are naked and funny being
you’re physically touching them I think
it is that transfer of energy and I
believe honestly that that every person
like when you’re looking at them even
feature-wise into the general public
because they’re looking at it what a
social Met image is all social media
images of what beauty is but it’s not
and I think that’s whether Europe comes
in a lot of it too is that we had it we
developed that I of the there’s beauty
in all forms and it’s it’s amazing if
the array is incredible so I think that
that’s my you know I want people to be
seen and to to feel comfortable into
their own to feel beautiful in their own
skin really to be honest
mmm-hmm that’s great and Lisa what about
you well I I have noticed over my past
so many years of being an esthetician
that women are always comparing their
skin because I have really beautiful
skin and they’re always comparing my
their skin to my skin and I always have
to explain to them that I’ve been taking
care of my skin since I was 10 because
my own skin condition and in this little
little bit of Mediterranean jeans don’t
hurt the Italian does not hurt at all
actually thank you die but um my I have
always been on a mission since a young
girl to empower women and to give women
that make them strong and make them
believe how beautiful they are and
everyone’s beautiful in their own way
and but we with social media and
everyone’s you know the snapchats and
the little filters and everything that
everyone looks beautiful now and you
walk in and see them but the thing is is
that you have to understand and I always
try to get this mission of this message
across that you’re you don’t know how
beautiful you are and I
actually use the statement very often I
wish I could take my eyes out of my head
put them in yours you could see what you
look like yeah and I do preach all the
time that you get away from that Mira
stand back you know I want you standing
back five feet and this way you could
see how I see you I don’t see you in a
microbe 1×1 square I actually had a
whole segment on 1×1 square how we see
ourselves and so my mission has always
been to empower women I you know I just
I wasn’t very fortunate I had a father
who just like you could daily look at
what you could do it I mean back in the
70s you know women didn’t do it we
didn’t do it and my dad was very
encouraging whatever it is I could do I
could do and you got to just love it and
do it and but beauty is really from the
inside and you can take the most
beautiful female on the outside on a
print magazine and she’s got the ugliest
human being when you get to know them
and you morph beautiful women morph not
very attractive when you get to know
them and not attractive women morph to
very beautiful elegant amazing women
when you get to know them and it’s a lot
of that beauty is inside so when you
take care of your skin you feel good
about your skin and you feel good about
how people are perceiving you that’s the
big thing is like how are people
perceiving me when I walk into a room do
I look like I’m happy and alive or do I
look like I just am a Danite you know
had a road rage and so look at yourself
well more objectively instead of that
mindfulness yeah yeah it reminds me of
my favorite quote from iconic makeup
artist Shu Uemura who says the more
beauty is recognized the more it’s
realized no more it’s realized which
recognized sorry so the more you realize
how beautiful you are and all of your
uniqueness the more it radiates outwards
and recognized by others so I that said
that’s one of the things that keeps me
going so I just wanted to ask you a
little bit about what keeps you excited
about the industry you know you have
both I don’t know how many decades I’m
not gonna say how long we have
collectively been in the industry but
you know Joanna let’s start with you you
know having dabbled in every possible
area
of the beauty industry from this vantage
point as a makeup artist as a creator
and expert a consultant brand of Ella /
how do you stay excited about the future
um I constant I think the innovation and
the industry is constantly changing it’s
that you can’t rest on your laurels it’s
one of those things where um you know I
think that fashion played a big part of
that – having that background that
there’s you know every season there’s
new new new new new so I think that – to
have that drive and that desire to want
to see and want to create and bring
innovation to the marketplace and having
a hand in that I enjoy that and I also
like to challenge myself and you know I
never thought I’d be an author I never
thought I would have a TV show I all of
what all that stuff but I always knew
I’d be sitting across table top but you
know the truth is I think that’s what
keeps me you know going and that you
know just a grinder and I I really do
I think the innovation behind it it is
kind of what fueled me yeah you never
have to be stuck in one place you’re
constantly yeah open to what’s new yeah
and not only can you products that are
new but also markets you can move you
can go to London you can go to Paris you
can go here you can go to LA do
celebrities you know there’s so many
different facets you know and you know
with social media that’s huge – and you
know there’s so many different things
and now with the virtual reality I mean
I was in Silicon Valley and it’s amazing
what’s going on in the beauty industry
wasn’t up there it’s mind-blowing in the
show reality is it’s talked about that
those devices are really the future
illness devices yeah insane
so even that I’m me I’m not a tech
person but my god let’s say that for the
next segment Kerry they said really
quickly let’s just get deep into what
keeps you going what keeps you excited
about the industry um the science mainly
but I want to be I feel I’m 35 inside I
act like I’m 35 inside and I want to
look like I’m 35 on the outs
and that really keeps me up and
motivated every single day
that’s right staying as vibrant as you
feel hmm that’s it all right so we’ll
take another break here and when we
return I’m going to ask you guys about
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I’m your host ilish Pierce and I just
want to get right into it okay so you
Joanna mentioned something in the last
segment about collaborating with some
awesome projects in Silicon Valley so
are you able to talk about that is it
further far enough along in the
development
it’s definitely what’s a real thing it’s
really happening um people I mean if you
imagine if you remember the Jetsons when
she would put her face into a box and
she would get sprayed in another box
would come down to her hair and leave
and she’d walk out the door kind of a
thing they are so close to the place
even my job pretty scary but at the same
time you know I mean there’s nothing um
like the human you know artist artistic
value whatever but for something that if
you wanted to do you know like in social
media that cookie cutter face whatever I
mean that can certainly be accomplished
now through tech which is so fascinating
to me I call that look the Persian pop
princess look everybody does at the cut
crease on it and so I can imagine that
it would be easy just to stamp it on you
know if you had a program that could
just and they just basically they just
scan your face and then you put it into
a box and boom you put in the kind of
look you want and yeah it’s pretty much
that I felt a feeling yeah well I feel
that like you know the younger
generation of actresses especially like
save you on a Disney show and you know
they don’t really need makeup they just
need a little bit of color for HD you
would ever cover up a few things I feel
like that whole generation not only will
they never own a car because they’ll
have you know a burr or a flying car or
whatever we don’t know I don’t drive
anymore but I don’t know if we’ll ever
experience having a real makeup artist
doing their face like having their face
painted by an artist I feel like that’s
going they’re going to grow up with that
machinery so it’s pretty fascinating so
if you go back to
like airbrush tanning for example when I
first I think I was one of the first
ones to get one sent to me and I
remember doing one of my clients who’s
extremely well-known and doing her in
her husband was easy he’s like why what
are you doing with a car paints a
quadric by my boys like what’s going on
the Vic ever given our tan and so but
you know what I mean so there’s all
these things that come and go and come
and go and summer trends and some really
stick I just feel like this is going to
be something financially for Studios
right that will cost them less well long
term and how exciting for you to be let
in on this you know to be so recognized
that you’re invited to participate in
this the future 100% I’m totally humble
and grateful
cuz I’m and my mind is blown like
constantly yes well one thing that a
machine can never do is replace human
touch so I’m not sure if some of those
more aggressive ablative procedures
could become totally monetized or
automated that I can’t speak on but this
the touch part virtual reality let me
just tell you you feel like you are
being touched it’s a little crazy okay
Lisa take it away I’ve actually
experienced see virtual reality touch
and it’s not even anything it’s just
sexual energy coming off of a pad and it
feels like someone’s holding my hand and
some you know they close my eyes and I
had was touching a cat and petting a cat
it was crazy I literally could see the
cat my head I could feel it in my hands
I felt the heat I can hear the field of
purring and there was nothing near my
hands in the middle of the air just
petting this cat that doesn’t even exist
if your ear isn’t now is creepy so
facial massage that you could just be
totally automated it could be totally
automated just put like a little box
over the head and and the patient would
actually feel already getting accustomed
to the light boxes and things like so
yeah and there are lasers that are
automated now then you know because you
know the hand is different everyone’s
hands different some people have heavy
hands some need love light hands and so
you get a different treatment from every
different people in it and
the computer will do it you know
completely the same over and over again
I want to first say how exciting it is
that my two friends are in on this
cutting-edge technology I have I have
gamers as kids so that you like me for
all these different really cool new
innovative stuff we have a client who is
able to I’m not sure how far along they
are in development so I can’t say much
but I know that they have a laser system
that will read the melanin in the skin
before it actually delivers effect so
there’s less risk of burning or
anniversary there’s actually lasers out
right now that do have that that can
dictate a job right the depth and how
far is going down and not to hit on
their heat up and you know you actually
close up the heating inside the skin
thermally this is a home procedure oh is
it like that thing that you can put onto
your phone that contractors use I just
saw this yesterday where you can scan it
on your wall and it shows you exactly
not only does what are fine not even
adjust with the studs but if it has
water is copper if it’s wire if it’s
wood if this is that it’s just a little
thing you can clip onto your own phone
it’s cool knowledge yeah you take your
own phone and you just can’t so you can
scan your face and they say oh go deeper
there go lighter there right this really
is the this is the future this is the
this is the wave that that devices that
are coupled with beauty and wellness
it’s an exciting time to be in the
industry I’m so grateful to be alive at
this time and working at this time and
it’s fascinating it is a path especially
the past five years has just tripled
itself in in just the technologies that
are out in the different every every
John on Dondre is almost as this like
social media is already being bypassed
in a weird way mm-hmm yeah I do think
that it has taken on social media is
taking on such entertainment value that
it’s kind of hard to mine for that
innovation and something that’s new
everything is based on trend which is
fine for marketing after the fact but
how do you predict the future
I heard a really interesting quote the
other day this someone had said to me
they said you know basically it’s just a
landmine of ideas and you can’t protect
those ideas and I said yeah but it’s how
you can do it everybody has ideas it’s
what you do with them and to you know
take them so it is a good space and I
think it’s it’s a stepping stone to
where we’re going and the future but I
definitely feel that like eventually
that even won’t be an issue anymore so
social media is becomes this platform
for creative ideas but it you have to be
careful not to get stuck in the in the
the now in the trend and really look at
what is trending and use that as your
jumpstart to the future that kind of
ties in our last segment better but also
the now is five minutes ago right the
thing with social media and you know
they put it out there and then they
already think it’s done but it’s not but
it is yeah it’s over it’s out there is
gone you know it’s like done next mm-hmm
yeah so that’s a big you know people
fall in that hole that’s good well I
just want to thank you both for coming I
I do think that I’m so honored to know
you two to have maintained a
relationship with the two of you and I’m
excited about the trajectory of your
careers I know that there are twists and
turns and it shifts and it morphs and
it’s not always easy to hold on to the
reins but you guys have are like taking
control and making that your your your
tool your route you know I want to say
something else I can’t I think we’re
just having fun to be honest with you
that’s it yeah thank you I’m so honored
to be here and it’s been so lovely to be
with both of you have learned a lot and
you know sound credible yeah we’re
always learning good afternoon
that’s great so we’re going to wrap it
up our time has come to an end I want to
just thank you so much Lisa Watts and
Joanne asleep and thanks for sharing
your story with us and to our viewers if
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