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	Podcast:		5by5 Master Audio Feed
	Episode:		The Big Web Show 173: But What I Really Want to do is Creative Direct, with Dan Mall
	Category:		Technology
	Duration:		01:00:29
	Publish Date:		2018-03-19 17:00:00
	Description:		Creative director, advisor, designer, developer, author (Pricing Design), speaker, mentor, musician, and entrepreneur (SuperFriendly, SuperBooked) Dan Mall is Jeffrey Zeldman’s guest. Running a studio, pitching, value pricing, the apprentice program, “Make Grunt do it,” how to start a startup, “the most exciting design systems are boring,” walking away from big pitches, launching a service to help you find work. Links for this episode: A Book Apart, Pricing Design “How to Scope Work,” an article by Dan Mall SuperBooked Dan Mall (@danmall) \| Twitter Brought to you by: Squarespace (Visit Squarespace.com to get a free trial and use the offer code BIGWEBSHOW for 10% off your first purchase).
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