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	Podcast:		5by5 Master Audio Feed
	Episode:		The Big Web Show 172: Design Grows Up (and that gives us all the feelings) with Mike Essl
	Category:		Technology
	Duration:		00:50:50
	Publish Date:		2018-03-12 13:00:00
	Description:		Mike Essl, Dean at Cooper Union School of Art in New York, is Jeffrey Zeldman’s guest. Topics: The designer as hobbyist. “I was an expert witness for the Associated Press.” Design is a machine. Working in a comic book store. The Cooper Union coincidences. Web design in 1995 versus today. New York design versus San Francisco design. Systems making versus picture making. Kind of Bloop. Links for this episode: Mike Essl Mike Essl (@essl) \| Twitter Welcome \| The Cooper Union Born in the Bronx: A Visual Record of the Early Days of Hip Hop: Johan Kugelberg, Joe Conzo, Afrika Bambaataa, Buddy Esquire, Jeff Chang: 9780789315403: Amazon.com: Books Amazon.com: Watching the Watchmen (9781848560413): Dave Gibbons: Books The Chopping Block, Inc :: World Domination Through Graphic Design
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