In our second episode, Sunjoy Joshi, Chairman of the Observer Research Foundation speaks to Sergey Lavrov, the Foreign Minister of Russia, about Russia's role in stabilising the Civil War in Libya, the importance of a rules-based international order, and making the world more democratic on the basis of the principles of the United Nations Charter. Follow Sunjoy Joshi on Twitter: @SunjoyJShare your feedback on: podcasts@orfonline.orgIntroduction music credit: 'Rising Spirits' by Jay Man.