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	Podcast:		Saturday Morning
	Episode:		Iwi leader on discovery of French maritime artifact
	Category:		Society & Culture
	Duration:		00:06:43
	Publish Date:		2025-07-18 19:34:00
	Description:		One of New Zealand's oldest European artifacts has been located in the waters of Doubtless Bay in the Far North. The anchor once belonged to the French ship Saint Jean Baptiste which was captained by Jean-Francois Marie de Surville. In a storm in 1769 they lost an anchor and had to cut two more loose. Two of them have already been found - and the 3rd was discovered by Kelly Tarlton in 1982 - however the co-ordinates were misplaced until now. Several of the Saint Jean Baptiste crew members had scurvy and were nursed back to health by members of Ngati Kahu. Chair of Ngati Kahu and Professor of Maori Studies at the University of Auckland Margaret Mutu, talks to Mihingarangi about why de Surville's encounters with Maori left a scar.
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