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	Podcast:		Optimal StartUp Daily
	Episode:		1936: Unpaid Internships: Learning Opportunities or a Legal Form of Slavery? by Jen Hayes on Ethical Labor Practices
	Category:		Business
	Duration:		00:06:27
	Publish Date:		2026-01-18 08:00:00
	Description:		Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 1936: Jen Hayes challenges the polarizing debate around unpaid internships, spotlighting how privilege, not entitlement, often determines who can afford to work for free. She encourages a more nuanced conversation, urging society to address systemic inequities rather than shaming young professionals for seeking fair compensation. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://www.jenhayes.me/unpaid-internships-learning-opportunities-or-a-legal-form-of-slavery/ Quotes to ponder: "Someone who comes from a rich family can afford to be an intern. Students who grow up in poverty don't have this luxury." "Let's stop attacking each other and work together instead." "Unpaid internships do allow students and recent graduates to gain work experience which helps them get a 'foot in the door'." Episode references: National Association of Colleges and Employers (NACE) internship data: https://www.naceweb.org/job-market/internships/ Fair Labor Standards Act Internship Guidelines: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fact-sheets/71-flsa-internships
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