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An AI chatbot that hallucinates is annoying. A robot or physical AI that hallucinates can cause injury or death. Burkhard Boeckem, CTO of Hexagon, explains why the bar for physical AI is fundamentally higher than digital AI, and what it takes to deploy robots that actually work in the real world. All this in CXOTalk episode 905.\ In this conversation, we cover: → What physical AI actually means (and why it's different from the AI you use every day) → Why digital twins are the foundation for training robots safely → The gap between impressive YouTube demos and robots that create economic value → Functional safety: the "big theme" coming in 2026 → Cloud vs. edge computing for autonomous systems → Where robotics deployments fail (hint: it's not the technology) → What boards get wrong about robotics investments → Timeline: when will we see real autonomy?
Key insight: "Many boards overestimate the speed and underestimate the system work. It's not a software rollout—it's a complex engineering system."
Burkhard's prediction: Autonomy in constrained environments is 1-3 years away. The "butler humanoid" that does everything? Still a ways off.
⏱️ CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction: What is Physical AI? 02:06 Digital Twins as the Foundation 03:23 Understanding Ground Truth 06:42 Digital AI vs. Physical AI: Safety and Reliability 08:47 Real-World Business Applications 10:48 Security and Functional Safety 14:57 CES Announcements and Industry State 20:01 Cloud vs. Edge Computing in Robotics 22:32 Regulations for Physical AI 25:10 Addressing Bias in Physical AI 27:51 Timeline to Autonomy 31:46 Creating Economic Value Beyond Demos 33:26 Where Robotics Deployments Fail 35:59 The Future of Humanoid Form Factors 38:38 The Humanoid as User Interface 40:06 Digital Twins for Robotics 42:36 Fleet Collaboration and Swarm Intelligence 43:46 What Boards Get Wrong About Robotics 45:18 The Future of Work 46:32 Responsible Deployment 47:15 Manager AIs for Worker AIs? 48:16 Looking Ahead: Next 2-3 Years 49:37 Core Technical Challenges ———————————————— |