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	Podcast:		The Disciple Maker‘s Podcast
	Episode:		The Visible and Invisible Church: How Movements Actually Grow
	Category:		Religion & Spirituality
	Duration:		00:33:44
	Publish Date:		2026-02-02 10:00:00
	Description:		Join us for the 2026 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/2026-national-disciple-making-forum/ In this episode of the Disciple Makers Podcast, host Josh Howard addresses church leaders who feel a deep, unexplainable ache for more within the church. He explores the tension between the current church structure and the dynamic, multiplying church described in the Book of Acts. Howard argues for a 'dual operating system' church that integrates both visible Sunday gatherings and an invisible system of disciple-making relationships, prayer, and missionary work. Drawing on historical examples like John Wesley and the Moravian Church, he emphasizes the need for dual engines to fuel both gathering and scattering, formation and multiplication. Howard calls on leaders to start small, embrace disciple-making, and reinvigorate the church by embedding New Testament principles into its structure, all while maintaining unity and honoring existing church frameworks.
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