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Matt Mullenweg, founder, CEO and president of Automattic, talks to Doc Searls and Jonathan Bennett about how WordPress—their main product and open source project—is the "dark matter of the Web." He also tells us what's up with Tumblr, Openverse, WooCommerce, the Gutenberg block editor, and other projects among the many the company is up to.
Hosts: Doc Searls and Jonathan Bennett
Guest: Matt Mullenweg
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