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Getting Through Life's Sh!tty Moments with Grace Marshall
Category: Business
Duration: 01:03:39
Publish Date: 2021-03-25 05:00:26
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Grace Marshall

Award-winning author Grace Marshall is known for her “refreshingly human” approach to productivity.

Her first book ’21 Ways to Manage the Stuff that Sucks Up Your Time’ was hailed by readers as the ideal book for people who don’t have time to read a time management book. Her second book, ‘How to be Really Productive’, won The Commuter’s Read category at the CMI 2017 Management Book of the Year Awards.

Her work as a Productivity Ninja with global productivity training company, Think Productive, has taken her from Norway to New York, with stages ranging from corporate headquarters to a tent in the New Forest, helping thousands of people adopt new ways of working replacing stress, overwhelm and frustration with success, sanity and satisfaction.


Productivity Ninja, Grace Marshall is back on Beyond Busy to talk about life’s sh!tty moments, overcoming trauma, and how difficult times inspired her new book “Struggle”.

Graham welcomes Grace and asks her about where she got her inspiration for her newest book ‘Struggle’. > Sometimes, the fact that we’re struggling with something doesn’t mean that we’re in the wrong place. Sometimes it means we’re absolutely in the right place. And so, I felt like there was this thing around struggle that we weren’t talking about in productivity, but generally, in the world as well. I just wanted to have a different conversation about struggle.

Grace talks about different kinds of struggle and the shame we feel when we talk about it. > Sometimes the most dignity you can give somebody is to allow them to speak into your world, to allow them to help you.

Graham and Grace then covers the topic of crisis management when it comes to work. They talk about their experiences when the lockdowns were fairly new and the challenges their team at Think Productive faced. > We expect to feel tired or stressed or whatever, in the moment. But actually, sometimes it’s not until afterwards that it catches up with us. I think, yes, we can absolutely respond to crisis but if that’s ongoing, and we don’t have time where we can collapse then actually that’s not sustainable. That’s when we get to burnout.

Grace also discusses the importance of rest and why high achieving people are scared of it. > I think you there’s the reason why it’s terrifying to rest is because it catches up with you. And when you rest is when everything catches up with you. It’s when you can actually start to kind of process what’s been going on rather than just react to it. There’s also a lot of trust involved in rest, because you’re stepping away and you’re releasing, I guess some people say, the illusion of control, but like you’re releasing control.

Grace then also tells us about the ‘three shits’ mentioned in her book and why it’s important to recognize things that make life beautiful in these ‘shitty’ moments. > It’s recognizing that actually, if you know that there is treasure to be found, then when you’re waiting in shit, yes, it is still shitty, but it’s not just shit. There will be light in the middle of that.

Grace’s book ‘Struggle’ is available for pre-order on Amazon.

You can listen to Grace’s first guesting on Beyond Busy here.

Graham Allcott is the founder of time management training company Think Productive.

This podcast is produced by Riz and is hosted by Podiant.

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