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	Podcast:		Sway
	Episode:		The Trump-Musk Fallout + A DOGE Coder Speaks + ChefGPT
	Category:		Society & Culture
	Duration:		01:06:58
	Publish Date:		2025-06-06 11:00:00
	Description:		This week, Kevin and Casey discuss the sudden breakdown between President Trump and Elon Musk, whose disagreements over the policy bill before Congress quickly erupted into an all-out feud. Then, an ex-DOGE coder explains what it was really like to work inside the Trump administration’s cost-cutting arm. And finally, the former New York Times restaurant critic Pete Wells explains why some chefs are turning to A.I. for inspiration. Guests: Sahil Lavingia, C.E.O. of Gumroad, who spent 55 days working for DOGE Pete Wells, New York Times restaurant critic from 2012 through 2024 Additional Reading: If Elon Musk and President Trump Divorce, Who Gets Silicon Valley? This Year’s Hot New Tool for Chefs? ChatGPT. We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
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