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	Podcast:		Sub Club
	Episode:		The Past, Present, and Future of Building on Apple — John Gruber, Daring Fireball
	Category:		Technology
	Duration:		02:17:11
	Publish Date:		2025-07-23 09:00:00
	Description:		On the podcast I talk with John about the fascinating 40-year history of Apple’s developer relations, how almost going bankrupt in the 1990s shaped today’s control-focused approach, and why we might need an ‘App Store 3.0’ reset. Top Takeaways:
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