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Closing The Activation Gap On Workplace Mental Health with Ryan Komori, Savor Lining
Category: Business
Duration: 00:20:12
Publish Date: 2026-02-09 10:00:00
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What if mental fitness sat on your calendar like any other business priority? We sit down with Ryan Komori, founder and CEO of Savor Lining, to map a practical path from good intentions to real behavior change at work. Ryan shares a raw account of his own burnout and recovery, then lays out a system that helps teams build skills before crises hit: anonymous, therapist-led classes scheduled during the workday and Mental Health First Aid training that turns bystanders into effective supporters.

We dig into the activation gap—the space between knowing you should care for your mind and actually taking action. HR leaders often promote EAPs and teletherapy, but busy calendars, stigma, and decision fatigue keep usage low. Ryan explains how organizational activation removes friction: a simple, optional calendar invite with no registration, no cameras, and clear guardrails creates psychological safety and drives participation. The focus shifts from treatment to training, with practical tools like grounding, boundary-setting, assertive communication, and mindfulness that employees can apply under stress.

For executives still asking about ROI, we explore concrete signals: fewer leaves tied to mental strain, earlier referrals to care, better benefit utilization, and a shared language that reduces conflict and improves performance. We also cover what’s hardest about Mental Health First Aid—encouraging professional help—and why repeated practice in a safe setting builds the confidence to have tough conversations that can change outcomes. Along the way, we highlight “golden feedback,” a simple rule for day-to-day empathy that strengthens trust across teams.

If you lead people, manage culture, or simply want a healthier way to work, this conversation offers a blueprint: treat mental fitness like training, not a taboo. Ready to try it with your team? We’re sharing a free pilot therapist-led class for groups of 50+. Email pilot at savorlining.com, then subscribe, rate, and share to help more leaders close the activation gap.

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