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In episode 81 of The Gradient Podcast, Daniel Bashir speaks to Shiv Rao. Shiv Rao, MD is the co-founder and CEO of Abridge, a healthcare conversation company that uses cutting-edge NLP and generative AI to bring context and understanding to every medical conversation. Shiv previously served as an Executive Vice President at UPMC Enterprises, managing the provider-facing portfolio of technology investments and R&D. He is a practicing cardiologist in UPMC's Heart and Vascular Institute. Have suggestions for future podcast guests (or other feedback)? Let us know here or reach us at editor@thegradient.pub Subscribe to The Gradient Podcast: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Pocket Casts | RSSFollow The Gradient on Twitter Outline: * (00:00) Intro * (01:34) Shiv’s medicine/technology/VC background * (05:45) Difficulties for tech in healthcare and how this informs Shiv’s approach * (10:52) “Productivity with a smile” and how AI can make medicine feel more human * (12:35) Shiv’s experiences in medicine and how Abridge’s product helps doctors * (16:10) How the role of a clinical team could evolve * (19:30) Abridge’s partnerships and real-life use cases * (23:00) Shiv’s perspectives on concerns about bias/trust/privacy * (25:25) Clinical decision support vs “automating doctors” * (29:07) Transparency and Abridge’s user experience * (35:20) Algorithmic solutionism vs human-focused approaches to technology development * (38:50) Ways AI might impact healthcare * (41:10) Generative AI applications * (45:00) Generative AI opportunities beyond documentation * (49:25) Innovation and reducing friction, UX * (50:56) Why people make wild predictions about AI * (54:25) What it means to “automate away” a doctor, how we’re misusing the medical workforce * (56:10) Shiv’s advice for people interested in AI + healthcare * (1:00:04) Outro Links: * Abridge Homepage
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