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Life, Intelligence, and Embodied Computation - Blaise Agüera y Arcas

Category: Technology
Duration: 00:59:53
Publish Date: 2025-10-21 17:02:31
Description:

Blaise Agüera y Arcas explores some mind-bending ideas about what intelligence and life really are—and why they might be more similar than we think.


Life and intelligence are both fundamentally computational (he says). From the very beginning, living things have been running programs. Your DNA? It's literally a computer program, and the ribosomes in your cells are tiny universal computers building you according to those instructions.


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Blaise argues that evolution isn't just about random mutations (like most people think). The real secret to increasing complexity is merging—when different organisms or systems come together and combine their capabilities.


Blaise describes his "BFF" experiment where random computer code spontaneously evolved into self-replicating programs, showing how purpose and complexity can emerge from pure randomness through computational processes.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaise_Ag%C3%BCera_y_Arcas

https://x.com/blaiseaguera?lang=en


TRANSCRIPT:

https://app.rescript.info/public/share/VX7Gktfr3_wIn4Bj7cl9StPBO1MN4R5lcJ11NE99hLg


TOC:

00:00:00 Introduction - New book "What is Intelligence?"

00:01:45 Life as computation - Von Neumann's insights

00:12:00 BFF experiment - How purpose emerges

00:26:00 Symbiogenesis and evolutionary complexity

00:40:00 Functionalism and consciousness

00:49:45 AI as part of collective human intelligence

00:57:00 Comparing AI and human cognition


REFS:

What is intelligence [Blaise Agüera y Arcas]

https://whatisintelligence.antikythera.org/ [Read free online, interactive rich media]

https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262049955/what-is-intelligence/ [MIT Press]


Our first Noam Chomsky MLST interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axuGfh4UR9Q


Chance and Necessity [Jacques Monod]

https://monoskop.org/images/9/99/Monod_Jacques_Chance_and_Necessity.pdf


Wonderful Life: The Burgess Shale and the History of Nature [Stephen Jay Gould]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wonderful-Life-Burgess-Nature-History/dp/0099273454


The major evolutionary transitions [E Szathmáry, J M Smith]

https://wiki.santafe.edu/images/0/0e/Szathmary.MaynardSmith_1995_Nature.pdf


Don't Sleep, There Are Snakes: Life and Language in the Amazonian Jungle [Dan Everett]

https://www.amazon.com/Dont-Sleep-There-Are-Snakes/dp/0307386120


The Nature of Technology: What It Is and How It Evolves [W. Brian Arthur]

https://www.amazon.com/Nature-Technology-What-How-Evolves-ebook/dp/B002RI9W16/


The MANIAC [Benjamin Labatut]

https://www.amazon.com/MANIAC-Benjam%C3%ADn-Labatut/dp/1782279814


When We Cease to Understand the World [Benjamin Labatut]

https://www.amazon.com/When-We-Cease-Understand-World/dp/1681375664/


The Boys in the Boat [Dan Brown]

https://www.amazon.com/Boys-Boat-Americans-Berlin-Olympics/dp/0143125478


How something can be said about Telling More Than We Can Know [Petter Johansson] (Split brain)

https://www.lucs.lu.se/fileadmin/user_upload/lucs/2011/01/Johansson-et-al.-2006-How-Something-Can-Be-Said-About-Telling-More-Than-We-Can-Know.pdf


If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies [Eliezer Yudkowsky, Nate Soares]

https://www.amazon.com/Anyone-Builds-Everyone-Dies-Superhuman/dp/0316595640


The science of cycology: Failures to understand how everyday objects work [Rebeca Lawson]

https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.3758/bf03195929.pdf

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