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	Podcast:		The Immeasurable Podcast
	Episode:		INTERVIEW: Is There an Instrument Other Than Thought? \| Keith Berwick with Krishnamurti \| Part 2
	Category:		Education
	Duration:		00:53:33
	Publish Date:		2026-01-20 23:00:00
	Description:		Krishnamurti in Conversation with Keith Berwick (Part 2) You're listening to The Immeasurable Podcast. Recorded in Los Angeles in 1981, this second part of a conversation between J. Krishnamurti and journalist Keith Berwick continues the inquiry into the nature of the self and the limits of thought. Here, Krishnamurti questions authority in all its forms—religious, political, psychological—and examines the reliance on systems, methods, and beliefs. He returns repeatedly to thought: its extraordinary capacity to create knowledge and culture, and its equally destructive role in creating fear, division, and conflict. The conversation touches on love, desire, meditation, and intelligence, but resists explanation and prescription. Instead, it raises a central question that runs through the entire exchange: whether thought is the sole instrument by which understanding takes place. This episode completes the interview. Click here to listen to part one. Follow *The Immeasurable* on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica) Follow *The Immeasurable* on Tiktok (@j.krishnamurti) Subscribe to *The Immeasurable* on YouTube (@theimmeasurable) Like *The Immeasurable* on Facebook (facebook.com/theimmeasurable.org) Visit *TheImmesurable.com* Support the show
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