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	Podcast:		UNSW Centre for Ideas
	Episode:		Rutger Bregman in conversation with Katharine Kemp
	Category:		Arts
	Duration:		00:24:01
	Publish Date:		2020-08-17 00:30:07
	Description:		If there is one belief that has united the left and the right, psychologists and philosophers, ancient thinkers and modern ones, it is the tacit assumption that humans are bad. It's a notion that drives newspaper headlines and guides the laws that shape our lives. Human beings, we're taught, are by nature selfish and governed primarily by self-interest. But what if it isn't true? International bestseller Rutger Bregman is joined by Dr Katharine Kemp in the second of a three-part series of conversations to provide a new perspective on the past 200,000 years of human history, setting out to prove that we are hardwired for kindness, geared toward cooperation rather than competition, and more inclined to trust rather than distrust one another. Dr Katharine Kemp is a Senior Lecturer at UNSW Law, and an expert in data privacy and misuse of market power laws. Her research focuses on the ways personal data is collected and used to the detriment of consumers. She is the Academic Lead on the Grand Challenge on Trust. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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