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	Podcast:		Ideas
	Episode:		#3: How a dispute can lead to unity
	Category:		Society & Culture
	Duration:		00:54:08
	Publish Date:		2025-08-20 18:10:00
	Description:		Difficult conversations are almost always about something under the surface, and hidden. In his third Massey Lecture, Ian Williams illustrates what we’re listening for isn’t always obvious. He explains how personal conversations aren't about finding answers — it's for communion. *The Massey Lectures originally aired in November of 2024.
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